Sunday, October 02, 2011

A NOTE TO OCCUPY KANSAS CITY: NO UNITY WITH WHITE SUPREMACISTS AND NAZIS! DUH.

I have just read posts on the two OCCUPY KC Facebook sites that indicate that outright racists, even nazis would be welcome to join in by some since they agree with parts of the agenda. One site went so far as to say we need to find the one thing we all, including them, agree on, then we can gather together. If nazis and white supremacists are part of the 99 percent, then count me out until we weed down that percentage a bit. THERE IS A LIMIT!


The first little discussion below is from the facebook page   OCCUPY KANSAS CITY.  The second is from #OccupyKC - We are the 99% - #EndCorporatocracy.


NOTE: PEOPLE WHO ARE SENDING HATEFUL EMAILS TO KCIWW AND TO DIANE NEED TO KNOCK IT OFF  YOU ARE MISINTERPRETING THIS.  THEY ARE NOT RACISTS. THE IWW IS OBVIOUSLY NOT RACISTS.  I HAVE DISCUSSED ALL THIS WITH THEM.  THEY GET IT.  THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE.  FUCKING LEAVE THEM ALONE ALREADY.  IF YOU WANT TO ATTACK SOMEONE ATTACK REAL RACISTS, AND REAL NAZIS.




Occupations, please do not fall for divide and conquer tactics! this is not about partisan politics, this is about class solidarity among the 99%. Tea Party members are part of the 99%. If we reject each other based on political affiliation, we will fail. We need to focus on what we have in common as 99% of the world population who is suffering at the hands of the 1%. Find one demand that we can all embrace. It is there. Find it. Turn no one away. Explain to the racists why race is not the problem, explain to liberals why the Tea Party is not the problem, explain to conservatives why Obama is not the problem. Tell everyone, the 1% is the problem. We are the 99%.

 ·  · 12 hours ago

  • 10 people like this.

    • Deniz Aydın Yeter spoken like an actual anarchists who earned us working men and women the 8-hour work day and other things the AFL and other labor unions failed to accomplish in the early 1900s ;)
      11 hours ago · 

    • KansasCity Iww Ah! Someone recognizes us! Yay! Actually, the IWW has no political affiliation, and considers anarchism to be political affiliation. All workers are welcome to join, no matter what political party they do or do not belong to. Are you in KC and familiar with the IWW Free Speech Fights here in 1911 and 1944?
      11 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Randy Gould Can't accept that. Can't accept working with racists and the like. This has happened in anti globalization movement at times and is not good. Let's face it, even nazis are part of the 99 percent, bit I don't think I want to hang with folks who want to exterminate me.
      47 minutes ago · 



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 ·  ·  · Yesterday at 11:50am

    • Diane James Chris, this is not about race or religion. This is about the 99% of people who are not multi-billionaires. People of all races, religions, and political affiliations are among us and they are welcome.
      19 hours ago ·  ·  1 person

    • Carolyn Rose Goyda amen Diane ;-)
      33 minutes ago · 

    • Randy Gould 
      If you consider an Jew hater like this part of "movement" just because he supports some of what you support, you have lost me. I don't unite with outright racists, nazis, and the like. THERE IS A LIMIT! You don't invite these folks in and talk sweetly to them about their hatred and bigotry, you run them the fuck out of town. SERIOUSLY, I need to know if OCCUPY KC will allow this ilk to participate. If so, count me out. I am willing to be open and I am not looking for any dogmatic exclusiveness, but again THERE IS A LIMIT. Please, this must be addressed. I saw the same sort of naitivity, at best, expressed on the other OCCUPY KC Facebook site. So disappointing. We went through this in the anti globalization movement.

      25 minutes ago · 

7 comments:

CyberWobbly said...

Hi Comrade,
I can't agree with you more on the need to smash racism. However, I think you are reading something into the statement posted by the KC IWW that wasn't intended by the original poster. They are saying we need to unite the working class across political lines. This would imply getting the working class element in the Tea Party to stop being racist and join the rest of the working class. That would mean to stop being Tea Partier. In my opinion, that's an unrealistic goal, but it's definitely not a racist goal. It's an anti-racist goal.

I am glad to you made the much-needed point that there is a a limit to who we can work with, but you should be careful not to put words in other peoples' mouths to advance your arguments. Let's not just be constructively critical, let's assume the best of our comrades rather than the worst.

in solidarity,
Erik Forman

IWW member- personal capacity

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Wade Hannon said...

What is "racist" about that was posted by the KCIWW?

I am am a member of the IWW, And the AFT) originally from a small town in Kansas, a mix of 4 different European ancestries and one native/indian & i do not see anything other than an appeal for working class solidarity and the urging to engage in dialogue with people who have beliefs that work to divide and concur those of us who are workers of whatever stripe we find ourselves. How can we influence without engaging the people who are concerned about the so-called "wedge" issues (gun control, women's reproductive health, gender, sexual orientation, etc)?

I agree with Brother Foreman.

I also am sincerely asking these questions. I want to understand your reasoning.

In Solidarity,
Wade Hannon,
Chicago

mdh said...

Oh dear.

While I do totally agree with you, the individual who posted that certainly did not mean that they wanted to welcome nazis into their company. I know this individual personally and consider them a friend. I hope you'll believe me when I say that... the intent is not as bad as it might sound. :)

Oread Daily said...

NOTE: PEOPLE WHO ARE SENDING HATEFUL EMAILS TO KCIWW AND TO DIANE NEED TO KNOCK IT OFF YOU ARE MISINTERPRETING THIS. THEY ARE NOT RACISTS. THE IWW IS OBVIOUSLY NOT RACISTS. I HAVE DISCUSSED ALL THIS WITH THEM. THEY GET IT. THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE. FUCKING LEAVE THEM ALONE ALREADY. IF YOU WANT TO ATTACK SOMEONE ATTACK REAL RACISTS, AND REAL NAZIS.

Juan Conatz said...

I think you're looking too much into this. From the perspective of workplace organizing, you have to take these people on and dialogue with them. The amount of racists that are in political groups is very low. But the amount of people who are racist is high, and in organizing, you need a way of dealing with that. That includes dialogue with them to try and kill that attitude and if worst comes to worse, you need to find a way to isolate them and steal their base from them.

I didn't read KCIWW's statement as a formal endorsement of some sort of united front with fascist groups and I sincerely doubt it was meant that way.